Hwasin: Controller of the Heart
- 'He has no interest in dating.' - Let's go.
You know, I like you so much.
What's his name?
- Isn't it a woman's intuition? - Ah, intuition?
- Since she did that under a table. - Isn't she...
[The delicate and complicated feelings between a man and woman]
He almost tricked us.
As I went on with my life...
It was all my fault.
That it could be a source of pain...
[Hwasin's communication project between men and women starts now!]
On today's Hwasin, communication and empathy.
58% of men answered that the hard thing about living in Korea
is that they have to provide for their families until they die.
Yes, and one out of two Korean women said
that they have a hard time securing employment because of their appearance.
When asked, 'Have you ever done a background check on your lover or spouse?'
28.3% of men and 85.5% of women answered 'yes' to the question.
People, please don't do such things!
There is a reason why private investigators make a lot of money.
By the way, have you done it before?
No, it doesn't interest me at all.
I think Soo Young is one of those 85.5% of women who've done it.
I am not like that now, but before I got married, I did all I could to--
- do a background check? - Yes, yes.
In order to see if I should spend the rest of my life with him...
I think we should do a background, 'foreground' and 'side' checks as well.
Doing a background check isn't something elaborate.
It just about asking his friends about him.
We have Eun Ji here today.
- I think she's an amazing actress. - Oh, thank you...
[Jung Eun Ji]
I could've told Young Hee that it was all fake, but...
I didn't for only one reason...
because I have feelings for you.
Thank you.
Other actors told us that you might be a genius because you never took an acting lesson.
I watched every episode of 'Reply 1997.'
- How are you doing? - Yes, I've been doing well.
- I missed you, girl. - Me too.
- How is Jo In Sung? - He is such a kind person.
He said 'hi' to me first and talked to me as well.
When I told him acting was so much fun but that it got harder the more I did it
he recommended me some books to read.
Are you sure you weren't pretending that acting is hard just so you could talk to him?
There is some truth to it.
Why would you ask Jo In Sung about your concerns? Why would you?
I feel so nervous about meeting Jung Eun Ji today.
I am a big fan of 'That Winter, the Wind Blows.'
I have become even a bigger fan of Song Hye Gyo.
Song Hye Gyo is a forbidden name here on Hwasin.
You didn't watch any of our previous episodes?
She hates hearing the names of other actresses.
I'll become her fan once she does a TV drama, but for now...
I like everything about Song Hye Gyo.
- Hold it. - Her hairstyle is similar to Hye Gyo's.
- Right? - Yes.
[Impersonating Song Hye Gyo?]
- Yes, that's what she did. - It's pretty similar.
These days I am spreading my name as 'Song Ae Gyo' ('Song the Cutie Pie').
I am such a big fan of hers.
Could I show you a scene from that show?
[That Winter, I Guess the Wind Blew Too Hard...]
[Oh... my eyes...]
I've done it once again.
If you are going to do something, warn us first.
Hee Sun told us this...
- An absurd idea that she sounds like you-- - Come on!
She told us she's good at it, but I don't think--
- You've impersonated her for a long time, right? - I've done this for a long time...
but I've never done it in front of her, the original.
[So much pressure]
I've never done it in front of her.
I can do Hee Eun's voice and Nam Goong Oak Boon's voice.
- And the one who sang 'Dung Beetle'... - Shin Hyung Won.
- Shin Hyung Won's voice as well. - Ah, really?
Let's hear the first one.
[Yang Hee Eun's 'Morning Dew']
- Imitating her voice accurately. - Now, Nam Goong Oak Boon.
[Nam Goong Ok Boon's 'Love Love, Who Talked About It']
- Is it similar? - Sounds like her.
[Shin Hyung Won's 'Dung Beetle']
[They all sound the same...]
It's not entertaining if you do it well, Hee Sun.
- It's entertaining because you don't. - True, true.
She doesn't do it well, though she thinks she does it well.
I thought I did them pretty well.
Your believing that makes us laugh.
[Your believing that makes us laugh...]
- Isn't that so? - Right, right.
I do better than the average person though, right?
No.
Can we?
Find your starting note.
Your first note is too high.
That's because...
she can make it sound like her if she sings high notes.
[This is what the original sounds like!]
For a moment, I thought, 'Oh, she sounds just like her!'
I thought, 'She's amazing.'
[On every grass...]
Eun Ji is humming it and she sounds like her.
Here, here, come here.
- Really? - Try it.
- No, no. - Oh!
That's not it!
- No, that's not it! - When it's not, it's not!
Why do you keep saying they sound like me?
- But we are so used to saying that. - Ah, I see.
- That's how show hosts react. - To motivate their guests.
And this makes them continue showing their talents.
Can someone impersonate Yoon Bok Hee?
- If I can... - If I can...
- Do I sound like her? - No.
[Hee Eun says it like it is no matter what]
I want to hear Hee Eun's version of Yoon Bok Hee.
Could I do her voice?
If I can...
[When it's not, it's not...]
Okay, fine!
I don't know his name, but I think I might have seen him from somewhere.
- Right. - He's in 'No Children, Better Life.'
Right. What is your name?
What is your name?
Hi, everyone. I come from the city of Chuncheon in Kangwon Province.
I'm Lee Do Young from the city of Chuncheon in Kangwon Province.
It's been eight years since I debuted.
I've been 'this year's rising star' for eight years.
Ah, every year.
- It didn't work out like that. - He is a rookie.
I'm getting a lot of fans thanks to the drama 'No Children, Better Life.'
I'll make a solid impression here on Hwasin today too.
He's ambitious.
Yes, I see.
What TV dramas were you in?
- I was in 'Queen Seonduk.' - Yes!
- I played a king. - Really?
- I played a king who allowed a baby to live. - Yes.
I've been in a TV drama every year for eight years.
At least you've been working consistently.
I've been working without taking a break.
He's a veteran actor.
No, I am not.
He feels like a tainted rookie to me.
I am a rising star.
It must be great for you if you get to perform in a trendy miniseries.
I don't think I am a trendy actor.
When I was acting in 'Queen Seonduk'
they told me to play the king who had the darkest skin in the history of the monarchy.
So I... since I got to meet Hee Sun today...
She's very trendy, you know.
If you're looking for someone to play your younger brother in your next project
please recommend me.
Since he asked you to cast him like that, he's not a fresh rookie.
- He's been there and done that. - Yes, he has.
Is this how you got to work for the last seven years?
[Look forward to Lee Do Young playing a huge role today!]
Simon D told the media that he's been dating someone for a long time.
I wonder if it's okay to ask him about it.
Are things going well?
- It's going well, right? - Yes, we're doing great.
Excuse me, but how long have you been going out with her?
- It's been five years. - Oh, wow...
I am sure he has a lot to talk about today.
We at Hwasin will close the gigantic gap between men and women.
Show us the problem.
Ah, Hee Sun, it's good to go on a date like this. You like it too, right?
Yes, well...
I have something to tell you, sweetie.
Sweetie, do you really love me?
Of course, I love you. Why would you even ask me that?
Come here.
- I mean... - Why?
So frustrating.
I think... you are...
I'm not sure if you say you love me because I'm going out with you or if you really love me.
What are you talking about, Hee Sun? I love you so much.
I can and I will get you everything you want.
Okay, I see...
Trust me, honey.
Oh, all my nails are ruined! I did them today too!
So annoying! Sweetie, I want to get my nails done right now.
- Right now? At this hour? - Yes, right now.
I can do anything that will please you.
I can do anything that will make you happy.
My friend who's more beautiful and prettier than stars and flowers.
How is it? Do you like it?
Yes, I like it so much.
I think my love for you has grown this--no, this much.
Hee Sun, I can do anything if it's for you.
By the way, sweetie, it's getting late and I am hungry.
- I want sushi, sweetie. - Stop eating like a pig--no, I mean...
- What? What were you saying? - No, it's nothing.
- Sushi? - Yes, I want sushi.
- Right now? - Yes, right now. At this hour.
- At this hour? - Yes, right now.
I can do anything that will please you.
I can do anything that will make you happy.
More than stars...
Here.
Must be so salty.
Sweetie, you first.
Oh, it looks so... so... delicious.
Sweetie, I think my love for you has grown this much.
Is or isn't there eternal love?
It's so easy to fall in love, but it's so hard to stay in love.
But isn't it possible to fall in love once again with that person you fell in love with?
When are the moments that we fall in love again with the person we fell in love with?
[19,575 Korean men and women have participated in the survey]
[Q: When are the moments that you fall in love again with that person you fell in love with?]
'When are the moments that you fall in love again with the person you fell in love with?'
They say there is no eternal love, right?
But there has to be a way to maintain the love in your relationship forever.
Today's show is for those whose relationship is in a crisis.
I think you'll get a lot of helpful hints if you're worried about your relationship breaking down.
I think you can call this the 'How to extend the longevity of my relationship' project.
In my case, the time that I fell in love with him even more was...
when my boyfriend told me about his childhood.
One day my boyfriend came to pick me up from school.
'I know a pathway that only I know about,' he told me. It's a very cute pathway.
'Really? Then let's go there,' I told him.
So we went.
We went there, and I saw a small pathway.
So I was fascinated, and we walked along it.
It was connected to another neighborhood.
It had a bridge as well.
It was a pleasant pathway to walk on.
- A cute pathway. - Yes.
I felt very good that he and I had a shared space.
And he told me, 'I like you so much. Can you give me a chance?'
[A manly confession of love]
Try re-enacting it with her.
'Eun Ji, I like you so much.'
'Can you give me a chance?'
You sounded just like him.
Busan guys sound so alike.
If they said it without the accent, it would've been so boring.
Right.
- 'Hee Sun, can you go out with me?' - 'Go away.'
[Cut and dry]
Without the accent, that mysterious vibe between syllables goes totally flat.
Those mysterious and sparkly sounds just aren't there.
How does a Busan guy say 'I love you' in different ways?
For Busan guys, saying 'I love you' is pretty gross.
For instance...
To Hee Sun... 'Hee Sun...'
'You are driving me crazy.'
[A real man]
That was so cool.
I feel like there was much meaning in what he said.
If you say that without an accent, 'Hee Sun, I am going crazy because of you.'
'Are you crazy?'
- It's not as interesting. - It sounds critical as well.
We are saying the same thing, but it sounds better with an accent.
When he shares an intimate story about himself
that's when I feel a little fonder of him.
- That makes sense. - It does.
Do you want to check your answer?
[Out of the rankings]
In my case, when she takes charge in showing physical affection
- I think that's when I become fonder of her. - Right, right.
Really?
I used to have no interest in dating at all.
Come on.
Even everyone around me knew about it at the time.
My real name is Gi Suk.
'Gi Suk has no interest in dating at all,' they used to say.
Finally, I couldn't take it anymore. I didn't want people to think of me that way.
I asked a friend to set up a blind date for me.
- I went on the blind date. - Yes, yes.
I went to the 'Myungdong Tonkatsu' Restaurant in Busan.
Oh, I know that one.
It's Myungdong (a district in Seoul) Tonkatsu, but in Busan.
It's weird, right?
That was a hotspot for dating.
My date was in the 11th grade, and she was behaving very modestly.
She was like this.
'Really? Really?' She was speaking like this.
And then.
'You can go now,' she told the person who set up the date.
And suddenly...
she relaxed her posture.
'Want to go out with me?' She asked me.
She's an expert, an expert.
She had this kind of look in her eyes at first.
She changed the look in her eyes and said, 'You want to go out with me?'
So I said, 'I think it's a good idea, but...' That's when she sat beside me.
- You'd feel very nervous, right? - Of course.
She suddenly locked my fingers like this.
'Today's our first day, okay?'
I felt very good about it because she was pretty direct about it.
Then we walked out of the Myungdong Tonkatsu Restaurant.
I wanted to take her home, so I went with her.
We were talking on a bench in a subway station.
- Suddenly, the look in her eyes changed again. - Again? It happened again?
She was like, 'So what happened was...' and then suddenly she looked around.
She said, 'Can you come with me for a sec?'
She took my hand and led me somewhere.
- It was a three-- - What a blessing! A blessing!
- She took me to that three-minute-- - A photo booth.
- Ah... - She shoved me into the booth.
- Into that booth? - Yes, she shoved me into the booth.
And she started kissing me.
- That was the first date? - On the first date.
It was our first date.
We were going out, you know.
I don't usually get envious about things, but I feel envious about that.
[I feel so envious...]
So we kissed.
After that, my lips were so red, and I liked it.
After that, we went out again that weekend.
We met and went to Myungdong Tonkatsu Restaurant again.
We went to a coffee shop and had parfaits.
- Parfait? Wow, parfait. - You buy it only for the one you love.
You have to take out the mini-umbrella too.
It has an umbrella, you know.
'Let's block the sunlight.'
And then...
Then we headed out and I took her home again.
And... the look in her eyes changed again.
By now, she didn't even have to look for a booth.
She already knew where to go.
'Come here. Let's go,' she told me.
She pushed me into it.
I was like, 'Is it that time again?'
It would've been so funny if there was somebody taking pictures already.
You can look under the curtain to see if someone's there.
She pushed me into it. So we kissed again.
But this became a routine for us. Whenever she could, she'd push me into a booth.
So when they went to Myungdong Tonkatsu Restaurant...
he was like, 'Today's the day!'
So she wanted you to have the stamina for it.
After that, whenever she saw any booth, she pushed me into it.
But that's when I came to my senses.
Twelve days after we started going out.
Twelve days. All of that happened within just twelve days?
I felt scared all of a sudden.
- Because it was going too fast? - I was kind of innocent back then.
So I... called her.
- And said I felt scared. - That's being honest.
'Honestly, I feel a little scared.'
'At this rate, I think we might cross a line that we shouldn't,' I told her.
- 'We are still students.' - What is her name?
What does her father do?
- I told her we should break up. - Good for you.
I told her I don't think I could keep it going.
- Men get attracted to women who're like that. - Really?
Based on what I've heard...
she sounds like a wicked woman. A femme fatale?
She really was a wicked woman because she found another man the day after we broke up.
- And she once again pushed that man-- - I'm sure she did.
I'm so surprised to find out that men like women who act that way.
Hwasin is teaching me a lot.
I think when women take the lead with physical affection, it fires up the attraction.
I used to date someone in secret.
[Sec...]
[Secret...]
[Secret da...]
[Secret dating?]
- That means you were dating an actress? - A celebrity?
Yes, she was a fellow actress, so we dated in secret.
We met in a setting like this.
There was a round table like this with a tablecloth.
Usually men are more impatient when it comes to physical intimacy.
I was sitting at that table, and suddenly...
We had to make sure nobody found out about it that day.
She wrapped her leg around mine.
Under the table?
- Oh, she's an expert. - I thought, 'Oh!'
'They shouldn't find out about us,' so I tried to cover it with the tablecloth.
- But then she grabbed my hand too. - Oh my.
- So daring. - But that's when...
We have a couple of guys who were really fortunate.
And what is her name?
[She's curious to know who that girl was]
I am so curious.
- We'll beep the name out. - I won't get tricked.
You don't trust me?
What is her name?
- You must've felt the electricity. - Yeah, and I also thought...
'She is charming.' She had never done something like that before.
Was it during a staff dinner for the TV drama you were in?
It was during filming.
- Wow, that's intense. - When the cameras were filming?
So amazing.
[Oh... wait a minute...]
Wait, won't they find out if I said that?
She played your sister, right?
Since you were sitting around a table, then it had to have been a family dinner.
She played the role of your sister, right?
[Oh... this shouldn't be happening...]
How many girls have you dated?
I've officially dated three different ladies.
- And unofficially? - I wasn't counting...
Those instant attractions.
There are relationships where it's hard to say you're dating, you know?
The ones that fizzled out.
But I want to say something.
It was when I was in the 9th grade. On my way home after school
a friend told me she wanted to walk me home.
'Why do you want to walk me home?' I asked her.
She kind of told me that she needed to walk me home.
'Okay, why not,' I told her.
When we got home, she was sending me a weird vibe.
I didn't have a desire to kiss a girl back then.
- Females can develop faster than males. - Really?
But she told me...
- 'Kiss me.' - Oh my!
So...
I wasn't going out with her, so I was feeling awkward about it.
'Kiss me... kiss me,' she said. She kept asking me to kiss her.
Oh my gosh.
I thought, 'Should I kiss her?'
To be honest... I was a little bit curious about it.
I wondered how a kiss would feel.
- Was she the same age as you? - Yes.
How come we were not as fortunate as he was?
That's what I'm saying.
We kissed, but...
I didn't like how my first kiss felt because of it.
Looks like you were forced to do it.
I didn't do it because I wanted to.
I have a lot of friends in Chuncheon.
And they told me she tells everyone about it.
[She tells everyone about it?]
Saying, 'I'm the one who gave Lee Do Young his first kiss.'
She was daring back then and she still is.
Everyone in Chuncheon says, 'Hey, I heard you had your first kiss with her!'
It must be embarrassing for her to watch this episode.
- Could I send her a video message? - Yes.
You...
Don't tell people you gave me my first kiss.
My real first kiss...
wasn't with you!
I think his answer might be up there because
it's about when someone shows physical affection when it's totally unexpected.
Should I check my answer?
'When she takes the lead with sharing physical intimacy.'
- 'When she takes the lead.' - Let's check the answer.
[7th place for men]
I watched your previous episodes.
I have a broad forehead.
- I do too. - It's a complex of mine.
So I--
It could transform Simon D into Huang Bin Hong in a split second.
I had a Chinese pigtail for a moment and...
The moment when you fall in love once again with the person you love.
People talk about wanting to meet a good person and having a good relationship, right?
I think I used to put in a lot of effort into finding a good partner.
I'm sure he was a good person, but...
he would push me over the edge and would often show me his negative side.
He would talk to me in a harsh way, even when he didn't have to.
- When you guys were fighting? - Yes, when we were fighting.
So I felt hurt beyond the point of no return.
I hated it so much, and I thought the reason for it
was that I was a bad person. I really thought that.
Then when I met my husband...
I learned that there are people who make me into a good person too.
A husband who makes his wife feel that she is a good person.
I used to think, 'Why can't people see that I'm a very good person?'
For the first time I thought, 'I'm a worthy woman and I deserve to be loved.'
- In what situations? - For example...
I became a professional singer quite young, so I didn't know how to manage my finances.
I'd never even been to a bank.
I used to get swindled as well.
You'd been swindled already?
I think I am the kind of person who's easy to swindle.
I trust others easily.
I listen well no matter what others say.
That's how I used to be.
But now Ms. Kim Eun Suk at our bank is educating me about managing my finances.
I started doing things like this after observing how my husband handled business.
I began following his example.
He helped me be true to myself and become an independent person as well.
I think that's when my love for him got deeper.
An old saying goes, 'A husband's shadow is worth 300 miles.'
When you feel emotionally comfortable in the shadow of your husband...
When you feel psychologically comfortable in it, its effect goes for 300 miles.
I used to have a brusque or cynical personality.
I cannot forget this one experience I had at a supermarket.
I met a high school friend who I used to hang out with at 'Forsythia Coffee Shop.'
At the school I went to, there was a spot beside a big rock
where the forsythia blossoms were so thick they could hide two students from view.
It was somewhere within the school.
That's why it was nicknamed 'Forsythia Coffee Shop.'
I met that friend I used to hang out with at 'Forsythia Coffee Shop' at the supermarket.
- 'Hey, isn't it you, Hee Eun?' - 'Oh my! It's been so long!'
I told her, 'I saw you last in the 1970s!' and she replied...
'Yeah, girl. And I got divorced.'
And she asked me,'Haven't you gotten divorced too?'
I thought it was so funny.
'I haven't.'
What a question to ask you after decades of not talking.
But it didn't feel like it had been several decades since we'd last talked.
It was as if no time had lapsed since the last time we met.
'I got divorced. Did you get divorced?' she asked me.
'We are still together,' I replied.
'Girl, I thought you might get divorced soon after the wedding,' she said.
She knew how you were when you were young.
So I told her, 'I thought I would do that too.'
We talked quite a while that day. I was shocked about that question.
'I thought you would get divorced very quickly.'
I thought, 'I guess the person my friend knew me as was someone
who had a rough personality and who would break up a marriage.'
You used to be cold and cynical, but now you are warmer and friendlier.
- Did your husband change as well? - Of course.
- To your husband - Send a video message.
[Never miss a chance to send a video message]
Come to think of it...
- I haven't expressed my feelings to him much. - True. You don't seem like the type to.
Thank you very much for recognizing me and my worth.
I love you very, very much.
I'll serve you well.
Sounds like a woman from hundreds of years ago!
This is the first time I've heard someone say 'serve you' except for when reading poetry.
It's a word rarely used by women these days.
Please serve me well.
Please serve me, please!
I'll serve you well.
'When he changes me into a good person.'
[Out of the rankings]
Soo Young was so surprised by that.
Simon D, did things go well for you after you started dating her?
She helped me quite a bit before I debuted as a rapper.
I wasn't sure which agency I should sign with.
Because I had quite a few offers from many agencies at the time.
- You became popular. - Yes, yes.
I became popular as an underground rapper. Mainstream agencies wanted to recruit me.
A lot of agencies contacted me.
I was having a dilemma.
Should I sign on with a big agency, which will give me a solid boost in marketing my music
or should I sign with an agency that will let me be free and creative in writing songs?
It was a hard decision to make by myself.
I am pretty indecisive.
It takes me about a month before I decide to buy a piece of clothing.
I know I look charismatic and decisive, but--
- By then those clothes will be out of fashion. - That's how I missed out on so many of them.
So my girlfriend helped me through it.
She brought me a piece of paper.
And she wrote the names of each agency that wanted to sign me.
She drew diagrams for each agency, kind of like a PowerPoint presentation.
If you choose this agency, you'll gain this and lose this.
Because she told me about the pros and cons of each agency
that's how I came to choose the agency that I am with currently.
She helped me quite a bit.
- So... - Yes?
Now it makes sense why that girl shoved you into a photo booth.
Because you do have some tendency to be indecisive.
And she saw that in you that day.
- On her first date with you, too. - On her first date.
The moment you fall in love once again with the person you love.
What could be on that list?
My father is warm-hearted and too nice.
He has a hard time saying no.
Because of that, he got into a lot of debt because he vouched for other people.
He borrowed a lot of money to lend to his friends.
Whenever Mom accumulated some money, Dad lost that money.
Whenever the seeds Mom had planted sprouted, Dad would cut them down.
So my mom went through a lot because of that.
One day we got a phone call from an unknown caller.
Whenever a call is displayed with an unknown number...
'This is such-and-such credit card company. This is such-and-such bank.'
My mom got traumatized about getting calls from unknown numbers.
Her heart jumped whenever an unknown caller called us.
When we answered it, it was indeed a bank.
'You are behind on your payments...'
So my mom ran away from home.
Mom ran away from home taking me and my brother with her.
- Oh, I see. - Yes.
Dad was by himself at home, and we slept at a motel.
The next day, Mom took us to Dad's workplace.
In front of us, she said, 'I can't live with you any longer. Let's end it.'
But when Dad said, 'Okay...' and walked away, I felt so sad.
One day, everyone in the family met at home.
Mom asked Dad to go for a drive together.
After they came back from it...
Mom started preparing dinner as usual.
Dad went to work as usual, and Mom cooked for him.
'Because it's so hard for me, I want to divorce you, but...'
'since you are their father, we have to take care of them.'
'And you are on my side.'
Things went back to normal the day after.
I think it was wise for your mom to do something drastic like that.
Not just cleaning up his mess.
I don't know if I should say this, but sometimes a wife needs to use extreme measures like that.
- Right? - Yes.
- How are things now? - Now they are very happy.
We have a family plan for text messaging.
The text messages he sends us are really something to see.
'Kids, what do you think about this?'
'Your mom wants me to take an oath of loyalty to her,' and we replied
'Come on, that's gross!'
Sometimes Mom visits us in Seoul to clean and cook for us.
He could have sent a private message to her.
But instead he texts all of us, 'I am missing her so much...'
He leaves weird messages like that on the family account.
That grosses the heck out of us when he does that.
But these days, I am glad to see that.
- His dad needs to be good to her from now on. - Yes.
My answer is, 'When she supports me completely while I'm going through a crisis.'
Let's check the answer.
[First place for men]
Yes, it's the 1st place answer for men.
'No matter what, she supports me completely and says that I'm the best and that I'm right.'
When I looked at today's theme, I thought...
that if she did something like that, I would love her even more.
Saying from her heart, 'Honey, you are the best. I believe in you.'
Like your mother, 'Let's get through this together.'
- Your mother was so wise. - Yes, saying, 'I'll trust in you once again.'
They say it's not the mountain that makes a person fall.
- We trip over a stone. - Right.
So even if we trip over a stone, the mountain endures it with us.
- I'm sure many people are going through crises. - Yes.
In times like this, if you say, 'You are the best...'
It inspires your man.
[Using this crisis as an opportunity to deepen your love]
- Shall we start the competition? - The 'Who had it the worst' competition?
Yes, who had it the worst.
[The competition of who had it the worst]
I was in a crisis that was this grave.
Since it's been a long time since you debuted as a singer and got married
I think you might have a lot to talk about.
I think the most powerful motivation for me to continue singing is deficiency.
I feel like I am somehow deficient.
It was hard when my parents got divorced and then with my dad passing away.
Once I got married, life was nice and easy.
Too easy. I didn't do anything except for playing with my puppy. I gained 20 kilograms.
I was a good housewife managing the money my husband brought home.
One day my husband said, 'Let's go back home. If we stay here longer, we can't go back.'
You were in America.
We decided to live close to our family that we missed.
After we came back here, one day, my husband said...
'This hurts,' and he went to work.
He came back in the house, so I asked, 'What's wrong?'
He said he couldn't turn on the ignition to start the car.
- Arthritis? - It was rheumatoid arthritis.
- He couldn't even do this. - Yes, how easy is that?
He came back into the house because he couldn't do that.
From that day on, his joint pain got worse.
It happened in pairs. When one wrist hurt, the other started hurting as well.
If this shoulder, then the other shoulder.
The joint pain happened in matching pairs.
- That's how rheumatoid... - Arthritis works.
It's an autoimmune disease.
Because it was too painful, he couldn't sleep.
Rheumatoid arthritis feels as if...
a tiger is ripping you apart and eating you alive, as they say in eastern medicine.
- Like gout? - It's way worse than that.
Ah, really?
He couldn't sleep for ten days, then two weeks and then three weeks.
You couldn't even describe how foggy he was feeling.
He said it was making him insane.
Because the pain was almost lethal, he said he wanted to cut off his hands.
There are people who have rheumatoid arthritis but don't feel any pain
if they have the right medications for them.
We went to many hospitals to test his condition.
The most advanced pills weren't working for him.
So he was given a customized prescription.
When they gave him the prescription, they said, 'If you take these pills
your ears will ring and you could have a whole host of other side effects.'
He couldn't live with or without those pills.
When I looked at my husband who was suffering like that
I thought I needed to stop working and take care of him all day and every day.
'Could I endure living that way?'
I thought, 'Isn't it better to get something going first and then stay at home?'
But he couldn't even do this with his arms.
It was like he didn't have any limbs.
He could get out of bed only by rocking back and forth like this.
- He came up with that on his own. - He couldn't even push himself off the bed?
He got up by swinging himself back and forth about 10 times.
But when he went to the bathroom, he'd have to drop down like this, right?
So I needed to pick him up and sit him down.
And the joint pain would go away for a few minutes when he took a hot bath.
So when he took a hot bath
I needed to pick him up from the back and sit down together.
It was so hard to pick him up.
After doing that for a while, I thought, 'Did you marry me to make me do hard labor?'
I couldn't believe it.
I've never shown anyone my tears but
I cried so much when I was driving by myself.
And when there was nobody there with me.
Because there wasn't any hope for his recovery.
No medicine worked for him.
Pain was so overwhelming for him.
Later on... your jaw is also a joint.
His jaw wasn't opening.
All he could put into his mouth was a tea spoon.
While I was working, my mother would make rice gruel for him.
'Say ah and open your mouth,' she said
but all he could open was only this much.
All he could do was eat using a tea spoon.
I cannot take on the sickness for him
nor can I live or die for him.
There was nothing I could do for him.
That was my human limitation.
No matter how much you love them, you cannot be sick for them, nor live or die for them.
I was so desperate to find some kind of treatment for him.
One that won't harm him.
If he took the pills as prescribed, there were just too many side-effects.
That year I was supposed to put on a concert and the best support
I can get is someone giving me feedback on the spot.
He gives me the most precise feedback no one else can offer.
- Your husband? - Yes.
He couldn't be there for me but I went ahead with the concert anyway.
There was a break after the first half of the concert.
The male choir who did the chorus for me were murmuring.
I found out that my husband came to the concert on a taxi.
I don't know how long it took him to get there.
- By himself? - By himself.
He was curious and he was worried about me.
He came to the concert and I just couldn't believe it.
The male choir and my band members were crying as well.
Because they saw my husband taking so long to walk down the stairs.
I am sure it took him so much strength to come to your concert.
- What did he say to you that day? - He didn't say anything except
'I wanted to see you so bad.'
'You singing.'
If you feel so bored out of your mind, and you want something different to happen.
'Why is everyday same all the time? I feel so bored,' you might say.
There is something about being unable to do the things that's so easy for others.
I thought how blessed it is to have nothing much going on.
And also, my husband's disease is a chronic and incurable one.
Even now, his joints shrivels up when it's cold or moist.
It made me think about the reason why I married him.
I think the reason was to enjoy life and grow old together.
My father died when he was 37 years old.
Having aged beyond 37 years old, I found out how soon it is to die at that age.
My father didn't even get to live.
What I want from my man is to spend the rest of our lives together.
So the song, 'If you are by my side'... that was made on my 35th year
of my professional singing career for that reason.
Can you sing a little bit?
Even if I have all the wealth and honor in the world
Even if I have all the money and fame in the world
You, if I didn't have you by my side
They have no use.
[I am content with how it is]
[I don't need anything else]
[Only if you are with me...]
The things that I've learned in a crisis like that are
the values of being alive, marriage and my husband.
I thought this when I heard your story.
- My husband always squeezed toothpaste from the middle. - Everybody does that.
But when I heard your story, I thought
'Squeezing it from the middle means that he has the strength to be able to do that.'
I still can remember
that I always used to squeeze the toothpaste all the way up for him every morning before going to work.
I did it for so many years because he can't do it himself.
I fought with him over this for about six years.
When I heard your story, I thought
'It doesn't matter how he squeezes the toothpaste.'
Having listened to your story, I might remember it tonight but forget about it tomorrow.
Oh, that's the problem.
But when I look at you, Do Young.
Mm...
You might be young but you seem to have a story.
Do Young's eyes say that he's been through some stuff.
His eyes are getting moist already.
When was it the most difficult for you?
In my case, after acting in Queen Seonduk, I became considerably well-known.
After that, I received many scripts for movies
as well as scripts for TV dramas and also casting calls from variety shows.
I thought, 'I am in a position where I can do something for my parents now.'
'I can give them money now.'
I thought like that but... Should I say the bubbles went away?
When I didn't steal the scene at the time work stopped coming in.
For about six months, no one was looking for me.
After that, I was in a TV drama again. In the beginning, I acted in a sizable number of scenes
but my appearance in it kept getting smaller.
That continued and finally I wasn't making any appearance at all.
I thought, 'What's happening?'
Before this, I was making at least one appearance per episode.
Since I am rookie, I always need to be in a stand by room because
when they call for me, I need to be there right away.
Because they don't wait for me.
So I was waiting in a stand by room.
There were actors who debuted earlier than I did in the room.
They made me feel as if I shouldn't be in that room.
So I thought, 'I guess I shouldn't be in this room.'
There was another stand by room so I went there and waited there.
I was sitting there and again I felt an older actor was making me feel as if I shouldn't be there.
Why would they do that? I don't understand that.
So I thought, 'I don't think I should be here either.'
But I need to be in the vicinity of the area and there was a dressing room that had a couch.
I was eating a sandwich with my stylist...
We were eating...
While we were eating, the same actor came into the dressing room as well.
He may not have liked me because...
anyway, he walked in...
He walked toward me and looked at me.
I looked at him and asked, 'Are you saying I should get out of the room?'
He didn't say yes but he appeared to acknowledge the question.
- I got out of the room. - While you were eating?
I waited outside until he went somewhere else.
I was in the middle of eating so I finished eating, and cleaned up after myself.
The stand by room became empty again and I waited there in case they called me.
The same actor once again came into the room and said
'Who left a used tissue here?' he yelled.
He wanted to find fault with you.
'Your parents did a terrible job of raising you,' he told me.
Oh my.
So I... so on my way home... I am sorry.
- No, no. - No, I understand.
On my way home
I was just sitting in the vehicle and tears kept flowing down.
That night, I thought to myself
'Ah, it's all my fault.'
'I'll become the person who can use this stand by room with confidence.'
Right! That's it.
I think that's what I decided that night.
Hee Eun, can you do your...
- It happened in 2009 -- - Yes, who is that person?
- Who? - Who is that person?
- However... - Yes.
When I was a radio show host as a 19 year old, I felt
'There is nobody there to be me in this world. Nobody.'
No matter where I looked, I didn't have anyone.
I was in my first year of university.
So I thought to myself, 'Let's make sure they can't fire me.
Let's make sure the radio rating is so high.'
I realized I needed to be someone who was needed by others.
- Don't lose yourself to self-pity. - No, no.
You don't have to cry over it. You don't go through something like that if you are good.
So, how could a person who hasn't even started become good?
However, at the moment, I told myself that I'll become a person that they need.
No matter where I looked I didn't have anyone or anything.
I wasn't even a newly-hatched chick.
I was just an egg. I didn't get myself hatched.
I was thinking that way and I basically lived at the radio station.
I read every letter from the listeners and found the guests for the show myself as well.
I think I realized it when I was 19 years old.
And wherever you go, you always find someone like that actor.
It's someone you need to overcome.
If you look back at it now, because of him, he made you more determined...
so how about sending him a video message by mentioning his real name and saying thank you?
- No, no... - It's someone you should appreciate.
Mention his real name.
You know I was the funniest kid in my neighborhood.
It was when I was five or six years old.
Kids wanted to listen to me talk.
When I talked about something standing on top of a stairs,
they were laughing and having a good time.
One day, I went to play with them and they weren't there.
I was like, 'Where are my group of followers?'
I found out that they went to kindergarten.
'Yeah, I heard about kindergarten but why am I not there?'
My parents couldn't afford it.
When I saw them come home from kindergarten singing as a group, I felt stressed about it.
I was pretty mature so I used to think that I didn't need to attend kindergarten.
But because I wanted it so bad, I asked my mom, 'Mom, I have to attend kindergarten.'
I still remember the name of it. It was Jah Ah Church Affiliated Kindergarten.
That was the name. I saw my mom talking to the director of the kindergarten.
I saw her talking from afar and I saw Mom looking down.
'Ah, it probably won't happen,' I thought but I held onto hope.
Mom knew my favorite snack is sponge cake with milk.
She only bought it on the day Dad got paid.
It wasn't even Dad's payday but she asked me
'Dong Yup, do you want sponge cake with milk?'
I knew, 'Ah, she's trying to make do with this.'
'She's trying to make do with this!'
If you watch a TV drama, the kid says, 'You are trying to make do with this, right?'
'I don't want give. I want to attend kindergarten!'
I knew if I said that I won't get to eat the snack or get to attend kindergarten.
I was crying my eyes out and ate it in big bites.
It was so delicious.
- I ate it all. - A cake full of tears.
I think about that day whenever I go through a hard time
because I made the wisest choice that I ever could.
He's a rationalist.
You cried over it and letting go of the grievance too.
After you finished it all, 'I don't want this!'
Yes, it's a good experience.
Since we are talking about this... Soo Young, why don't you make up a story about a crisis?
I know Soo Young went through many crises. I heard about many of them too.
She has many powerful stories.
Now I want to live happily.
I think no matter which group I am in, I probably
am the person with the most difficult hardships the most often.
I went through many events like that too.
Just as there is the law of conservation of mass, I think there
is also the law of conservation of hardship for a human life too.
So I think if you went through so much early in your life,
your middle and later phase of life becomes easier.
It's so hard if you face hardships later in your --
That really is so hard.
That's right.
I don't think it was a crisis.
It was rather a...
It was something that upset me?
I had the ultimate intensity of nausea when I was pregnant.
I even vomited blood every day.
After vomiting food out, I vomited blood later on, which damaged my vocal cords
including my skin and stomach.
Vomiting is so bad for vocal cords.
It's the worst.
It was so painful.
Because my mom isn't alive...
When I was working I had no time to think whether I needed my parents or not.
- But for the first time. - It was too...
Because I've never seen anyone who got nauseated as bad as I did, I wondered
'I wonder how my mom went through it?' I was most curious about that.
I kind of remembered hearing that she went through severe labor pains when she gave birth to me.
So I thought 'Am I going through this because of that? What should I do about this?'
I didn't know anything about it.
I thought eating rice gruel might make it a little easier but...
it was so bad I couldn't even get close to the kitchen.
I remember... so much about that time and...
Yes...
When a woman is pregnant, it's her mother that provides the most support.
Even when I was buying something I didn't have anyone to ask about it.
I read your book instead, Hee Sun.
- It was so... - Let me hug you.
Only if we knew about it sooner...
That's what I mean.
There are many things your mother can help you with, right?
Because my husband knew about it so well
he decided not to ask for any wedding gifts from me
because he knew doing that could be a painful experience.
His mother is alive, right?
She is and his mother also didn't want me to bring any wedding gift, and we got married two days after.
- It helps when they support you that way. - That's right.
I felt so envious when I heard someone said, 'I bought these for my mom.'
The biggest gift I received from marrying is that I now have parents.
People that I call 'Mom and Dad.'
You ask and learn anything and everything you want.
- That's a good attitude. - Yes.
You should learn everything you can from them.
Dong Yup, an expert in evaluating crises, who is the winner today?
- We heard everyone's story, right? - Every one of them are touching.
If we put ourselves in their shoes, I think each of them went through very difficult times.
- Yes, everyone. - Right?
It's so hard when you are insulted like that.
Soo Young's experience was very difficult too.
Please make your final decision.
In my perspective...
If Yang Hee Eun didn't have that muscle power back then...
I don't think she could've taken care of her husband like that.
It makes us think about the mysterious ways of God.
If she was as thin as she used to be --
Yes, if I weighed as much as Soo Young, I couldn't have done it.
It's impossible. How could I have lifted up a guy who's over 70 kilograms?
The person with the best crisis management skill is, Yang Hee Eun!
[Today's crisis management champion is Yang Hee Eun]
[Honey, when I have you beside me, I don't want for anything else]
What do you think is the top answer for women?
I had... this experience before...
There are times when you fall deeper into love when you get jealous, right?
My girlfriend was a university student at the time.
I went to pick her up at the building where her classroom was, right?
I was walking up the stairs toward her classroom.
I saw a tall guy walking down the stairs.
When I saw him, I just didn't like him for some reason.
- 'I don't like him for some reason.' - A guy's intuition.
I think he knew who I was.
I felt as if he wanted to pick a fight with me.
- Even though he didn't say anything. - Yes.
That's how I felt and he walked by me.
I didn't think much of it and I entered an elevator with my girlfriend to go eat.
But the door opened... and I was holding my girlfriend's hand, you know?
The same guy walked into the elevator and held my girlfriend's other free hand and said...
[A stranger doing that?]
[Holding]
[My girlfriend's hand?]
'Take care,' and he stepped back, and the elevator doors closed at the same time.
[That guy ran away on me(!)]
- What, what's this? - What was that?
So I was holding my girlfriend's hand in the elevator.
Since the doors closed after he said that, there was nothing for me to do, right?
I couldn't chase him because the doors were close and the elevator was moving already.
Too late, too late.
So I... you have that hunch, right?
It makes you think that he must know my girlfriend, right?
- I stood still. - How could you do nothing?
I think I was feeling angry.
I stood still and my girlfriend explained it to me.
She told me he is a guy who used to ask her out.
[Ha]
[Are you sure about that?]
Actually...
- [What...] - You can think that's the case, right?
[That is not it]
I thought, 'If I just do nothing, someone might steal her from me.'
I went to pick her up everyday.
- Deliberately. - I blocked any guy from talking to her.
Didn't she do it on purpose?
Ah, by asking a guy friend of hers to do it?
'Could you hold my hand when my boyfriend comes to pick me up?'
- Greeting guy. - Greeting guy.
[Chuncheon boy is in complete confusion]
I think... I...
Isn't she the same one who touched your feet with hers?
[Really?!]
[You can't fool me]
- Oh, hold it. - Yes, she is.
She's a TV personality, right?
She could've done that on purpose too.
Do Young is totally thrown off by what the ladies are saying.
[Pressure]
- He's like... - No, I think...
I don't mind if she did it on purpose.
- Are you still going out with her? - No, no, no, we aren't.
Why did you break up with her?
No comment.
We have four women who are very intuitive here.
It shows he's naive.
- 'Why did you break up with her?' - 'No comment...'
[He just needed to make up something...]
'No comment.'
[We got you now.]
You can't think right now, right?
He's like, 'Did she really do it on purpose?'
- On jealousy -- - Please don't cry.
'I fell even deeper into love because I felt so jealous when another man approached her.'
Let's check the answer!
He's good at it. He's good at it.
- Hey, I like you. - He has that potential.
He flew back.
I sense that he was talking about his current girlfriend.
- Aren't you going out with her now? - No, no.
No, I think it's present and progressive.
When Hee Eun asked him, 'Isn't she the one who touched your leg under the table?'
He was so thrown off.
He's so sweet, so sweet.
Oh, a boy from Chuncheon.
He's sweating like...
Just tell us what are you thinking right now?
Gosh, he totally lost his focus.
When a guy who used to ask her out, all of a sudden
holds her hand, and says 'Take care.'
I might feel like I was dissed.
If I was the guy I would've said, 'What the hell?'
'What's his name?'
'What is your name?'
'What does your father do?'
We have someone who's preoccupied with something.
[Student Do Young is preoccupied]
He's still in mental collapse.
This is what he's thinking.
'Maybe he was someone more than that?'
Or when Soo Young said you're going out with her.
'How did she even know that?'
Or, 'What if the viewers later find out who she is and publish that info on the internet?'
Because they could do research based on what he said.
If you tell us the truth, we will edit out some of them.
- You are going out with her, right? - No comment.
I've never heard an answer that's more obvious.
- 'You are going out with her right now, right?' - 'No comment.'
Don't fight about it because you heard us ask those questions, okay?
No, no?
Do you think she'll watch this episode?
Say, 'No comment.'
[What should I say? Should I say 'No comment' again?]
Ah, this is a weird show...
Did he just say that like that?
In the middle of filming...
He is really annoyed right now.
He's so annoyed when he said, 'This is a weird show. Look at these people.'
I've been putting on a performance all along.
[Oh my, Do Young]
- You are so cute. - I was just pretending.
[Chuncheon boy just makes us laugh]
What is your name?
- He's so cute. - He really is cute.
He was so confused about it all.
Out of the blue, 'I was putting on a performance.'
As if he knew the way to sort things out, he said
- 'I was putting on a performance.' - We should've said...
'What, that was a performance? Oh my gosh!'
You are the best actor!
- You fooled me. - A sweet guy.
I fooled you, right?
[Do Young doesn't how to surrender]
It's okay. You'll get a get a nice role in a TV drama because of this.
[Words of consolation that doesn't help much]
When was the toughest moment for you?
It's right this moment.
My gosh.
Do Young, I think you'll make it big in year 2013.
To give you a hint, the top answer for men was a lot more psychological.
By comparison, the top answer for women was simple.
'When she tells me that he loves me when I want to hear it?'
'When she finds out that her boyfriend is rich?'
Making you fall in love once again.
[His shocking confession?!]
Like finding out that his dad is wealthy?
- She didn't know but found out about it... - No, that makes sense.
I can't believe that's the reason?
But I had an experience like that before.
[Do Young is disclosing his own secrets!]
You did?
Was your girlfriend wealthy?
Something like that.
He's just saying anything now.
You are making me look a bit strange.
I used to live by myself in a small room.
When I went to my girlfriend's house
she told me it's her house that's under her name.
The house had two bathrooms.
That makes you fall completely in love.
It's a deep love, you know.
Yes.
- Is she the one you are going out with right now? - No, no.
- The one who touched your leg under the table? - No.
You are being harsh.
It's something like this, right?
I thought she was on the same level as I but having seen her house, it made her look prettier.
It made her clothing look more expensive.
It made her skin look even more beautiful.
That makes sense. It does.
- For genuinely innocent reason. - I used to live in the countryside.
So I...
We used to raise a cow inside our house.
I never had a friend who owned a house either.
Do you think men or women like things like this more?
- Men, I think. - Men.
Come on, what are you saying?
- That's not the case, I don't think. - I think that's truer for men.
Be honest, can you swear it?
I thought my wife accumulated a lot of prize money...
'When I found out how rich my boyfriend is.'
Let's check the answer.
[Out of ranking]
He's so good at that.
It's out of ranking. That as being the reason for...
In my case...
I wanted to put on an event. After having lots of conversations with him...
After about an hour...
I sent him a message saying, 'Something went wrong.'
So I thought... he might reply, 'Why?'
So I can reply back, 'Because I miss you so much.'
I sent him that text and he called me back immediately.
He was in total panic and he was so pale.
It was supposed to be like a prank.
'Did he get angry again?'
'How could you joke about things like this? It would kill me if I didn't have you!'
It was a way for me to be reassured that he loved me.
I wanted to know how influenced he becomes based on what I told him.
It was supposed to be a prank like that.
I thought for the first time, the person who loves me can depend his entire life on mine.
'When he comes to my aid first and foremost.'
Let's check the answer.
It's good.
[First place for women]
'When I said 'I miss you,' he comes to see me no matter how far away he is.'
So charming.
If he comes to see you when you say you miss him, that means
he considers you as the most important thing in your life, right?
What women want from men is not only a handbag
but what we really want is that he's a solid support.
- Oh, I see. - However...
we do not hate receiving a handbag either...
By the way, I am so confused if she's saying she misses me or not --
Women don't talk about it straight out but also beat around the bush.
- They wanted us to guess it right. - We talk differently.
This helped me so much in getting to know women.
Love is a verb, not a noun.
Because it's not something we attain in the moment but something we achieve with endless effort.
With the person who's with me, I'll go home and fall in love again, again, again and again.
You know, I like you so much...
They say we trip over a stone, not a mountain.
Right.
You are on my side no matter what.
[1st place for men: When she says, 'You are the best. You are right,' no matter what is happening]
[10th place for men: When you give me a pleasant surprise unexpectedly]
[6th place for men: When she takes care of me better than my own family]
[2nd place for women: He's usually strong and in control, but then he says something sentimental]
[9th place for women: He's usually blunt but when he behaves in a cute way to me]
[Next week on Hwasin]
- Jong Shin, you'll get in big trouble later. - Let's stop this!
You can use it anywhere you go.
I think I am good at kissing.
[JK Kim Dong Wook and Park Jae Bum: Masters of physical affection]
'You haven't done it yet?'
Are you sick or something?
My real name is Pil Soon.
I am from Jeonong.
[Lim Si Wan and Choi Phillip: Masters of innocence]
%$&%#
Am I your servant or something?
- I don't think kidnapping is... - It's not kidnapping.
I am so curious!
Hwasin!